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	<title>Comments on: Buckcherry Lies to Fans, Breaks Important Tenet of Radical Trust</title>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, you&#039;re proving my point.

First, and a little off-topic, having a record in the top 40 doesn&#039;t really matter anymore - it&#039;s not a guarantee of sustainability or even sales for that matter. 

So why lie? What&#039;s the benefit in the longterm? You&#039;re not gaining fans and you&#039;re not necessarily going to make more money.

And definitely, you&#039;re right, managers go against label wishes all the time - they must, otherwise nothing would get done. This is coming from someone who was told not to use social media for marketing because there was no channel to license our artists&#039; music. Sounds ridiculous now, but there was a time a few years back. 

Eric, even if the situation happened the way you suggest it did, with all parties acting to protect their own interests, I  stand by my assertion: &quot;it’s still indicative of a two-faced approach to doing business that has infected the music industry on almost every level&quot;. 

The whole point of this post, if you want a sustainable career in music, radical trust applies to you. It&#039;s crucial to be transparent in your actions because lying for a bit of fame now will not pay off in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, you&#8217;re proving my point.</p>
<p>First, and a little off-topic, having a record in the top 40 doesn&#8217;t really matter anymore &#8211; it&#8217;s not a guarantee of sustainability or even sales for that matter. </p>
<p>So why lie? What&#8217;s the benefit in the longterm? You&#8217;re not gaining fans and you&#8217;re not necessarily going to make more money.</p>
<p>And definitely, you&#8217;re right, managers go against label wishes all the time &#8211; they must, otherwise nothing would get done. This is coming from someone who was told not to use social media for marketing because there was no channel to license our artists&#8217; music. Sounds ridiculous now, but there was a time a few years back. </p>
<p>Eric, even if the situation happened the way you suggest it did, with all parties acting to protect their own interests, I  stand by my assertion: &#8220;it’s still indicative of a two-faced approach to doing business that has infected the music industry on almost every level&#8221;. </p>
<p>The whole point of this post, if you want a sustainable career in music, radical trust applies to you. It&#8217;s crucial to be transparent in your actions because lying for a bit of fame now will not pay off in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: James Pew</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Pew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@evolver
Nobody wants to be lied to, or manipulated.  Saying that fans don&#039;t give a crap is a stretch to say the least.  The manager, the band, and the label are supposed to be a unified &quot;team&quot; - any rationalization for these types of actions is pretty weak IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@evolver<br />
Nobody wants to be lied to, or manipulated.  Saying that fans don&#8217;t give a crap is a stretch to say the least.  The manager, the band, and the label are supposed to be a unified &#8220;team&#8221; &#8211; any rationalization for these types of actions is pretty weak IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: evolvor</title>
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		<dc:creator>evolvor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone keeps yapping about how bad this was for the band...yet the single dod hit top 40. Do you think Buckcherry &quot;fans&quot; give a crap about all of this? No. 

You wanna complain about the &quot;backfiring&quot; of this - look, the manager released the song because he probably thinks it&#039;s a good idea, because he &quot;gets&quot; it. The band also probably &quot;gets&quot; it and would have done so anyway. It&#039;s the LABEL that doesn&#039;t &quot;get&quot; it and released the negative pr. And of course the manager is going to deny it, &#039;cause it&#039;s probably in a clause in his contract not to do so.

Quit talking about this &quot;blunder&quot;, because all you&#039;re doing is giving Buckcherry even more buzz, which is what this game is all about anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps yapping about how bad this was for the band&#8230;yet the single dod hit top 40. Do you think Buckcherry &#8220;fans&#8221; give a crap about all of this? No. </p>
<p>You wanna complain about the &#8220;backfiring&#8221; of this &#8211; look, the manager released the song because he probably thinks it&#8217;s a good idea, because he &#8220;gets&#8221; it. The band also probably &#8220;gets&#8221; it and would have done so anyway. It&#8217;s the LABEL that doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; it and released the negative pr. And of course the manager is going to deny it, &#8217;cause it&#8217;s probably in a clause in his contract not to do so.</p>
<p>Quit talking about this &#8220;blunder&#8221;, because all you&#8217;re doing is giving Buckcherry even more buzz, which is what this game is all about anyway.</p>
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